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| − | 4: | + | Upper section divided by three columns, two different arches underneath the raised platform. |~|A|A|~| Water in u-shape underneath? |
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| + | Columns load-bearing, beveled? | ||
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| + | Roof should not be flat. | ||
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| + | Rocketmatt suggests a round roof (radius 3.14 feet, covers 6 feet). Questions about whether or not round sections will be able to be painted before we put them up. Answer: Maybe? Alan: alternate suggestion, stain. Not good; requires luan. Glisson suggests internal cloth. | ||
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| + | Alan really wants an electric staplegun. | ||
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| + | Split booth into three sections. Last section round, first (entry) section has steeple roof, middle section? Flat roof flat-out rejected. | ||
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| + | "columns" on the front of the booth will be a facade where we just drill some wood into the walls. | ||
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| + | Stairs to second level 3' wide. | ||
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| + | Suggestion for roof: Make last section square, taller, use fake round section as facade since people won't see it from the inside. People will see the booth from the front and know that it's just a facade, and will look tacky. | ||
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| + | Jgg suggests continuous gradient roof - pointed out that this would dump water on people in front. Gutters? Idea pretty much nixed. | ||
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| + | Original concept of having the booth look like different buildings from the side. It will be hard. | ||
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| + | Roofs need to be pitched, need to consider how they should be pitched. Gradient towards side? Steeple roof? Would be applicable to second level. First level has the courtyard, but they don't line up. Cover courtyard with roof? Interior light? Cut a notch in the roof for the courtyard? People think the notch is best. | ||
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| + | Alan wants to know specifics of where the beams and supports are. | ||
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| + | News: rocketmatt wants the three sections to be at different depths. | ||
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| + | Courtyard and roof don't line up - we should increase the size of the courtyard until it matches the roof. We think there should still be enough space for the game. Then the roof is just two sections gradient-ed towards the outsides of the booth (opposite directions on different sides) /|_|\ | ||
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| + | Waterfall in the courtyard: Glisson speaks. Seen from side (nobody will really see this), Glisson draws picture. Piece of Lucite was at an angle; Glisson disagrees. | ||
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| + | Sam reports with very basic research approx $200 per pump for water. Rocketmatt thinks we can get a lot cheaper: ~50. Unknown if those pumps can move water up the 10 feet that we need. How much water are we using. | ||
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| + | Rocketmatt thinks Lucite will be most expensive part of booth. Glisson thinks maybe we can convert it into two small waterfalls if cash is an issue. Rocketmatt also submits that we might be able to split the courtyard into two section with four small waterfalls on the side, maybe? | ||
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| + | Homemade waterfall website: 1 in width = 100-150 Gallons per hour minimum. No way. This looks like it's a real waterfall, but we only want a sheet of water. | ||
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| + | Rocketmatt and Glisson draw on the board; tank at top of waterfall? Shallow trough of water, pool at bottom, water pumped into trough causes overspill onto wall of water. Trough will be heavy, even if it is shallow. Some chalkboard math... have we checked restrictions on water? No, we haven't. End result - we'll get the pump we need to make the trough small. Trough needs to be mounted on walls really solidly. Trough proposal: gutter, put 2x4 as a stringer to attach it to, and underneath perhaps. Alternately, steel channel. Gutters aren't meant to hold water - Sam/Greta are going to go to home depot to get info. Use sealant, cap ends with 2x4 as well as guttercaps. Worries about gutter bending outwards - steel channel seems to be the best option, unless we build a 2x4 box and line it with plastic. Worries about that are that the warped wood will create uneven flow which will look ugly. So: steel channel. Tilt it so it flows outward, build small sheet metal curve to direct flow forward in case of conanda effect. Put sheet of wood up in front of the whole setup so that it is mostly invisible from the front. Or cloth, or something. What about the inside? Metal trough at the top may look weird. Also, it needs support. For Lucite: sandwich it between 2x4s on the ends. Also need 2x4 to support it in the middle so it doesn't bend - at top and bottom. Need metal or something curves on the side to make sure it doesn't spill over. | ||
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| + | Interrupt: Price point for 4'x8'x1/8" sheet of plexiglass is approx $124 + $170 shipping for a company from California. | ||
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| + | Seems to be some motion for two separate waterfalls so that the interior wall can come in and connect nicely, and also because it may look nicer. Trough setup will be the same, we would just weld something to the center so that there's no flow there. Need 4x curved sides instead of 2x. Verdict is that two waterfalls is better. | ||
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| + | Collection pool for water? Kiddie pool, big plastic bin, some kind of box lined with plastic or concrete. Concrete heavy - just put rocks in. Or gravel. | ||
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| + | Rocketmatt gains non-sequitur of the week award. | ||
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| + | What keeps the lucite from sliding off the frame we build for it? Glue, caulk, silicon. Needs to be placed so the channel is above it, and the pool is below it. | ||
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| + | What do we put in the courtyard? Armillary sundial! Eforney looking for one. | ||
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| + | Decorations in the back: Crystals. Glisson suggests switches to light them up. | ||
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| + | Rocketmatt speaks on possible secondary game. Control board with two wheels, three toggle switches. 2 Buttons/dials (?) above labeled Submerge and Rise. Wheels and switches labeled with greek letters. Sort of a matching game - make the wheels match the rotation to light Rise... This is not a submarine! Idea shouted down. | ||
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| + | Glisson suggests lights with switches just sort of randomly around - people can toggle switches and light up crystals on the walls. | ||
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| + | Prizes for real game: Greta thinks about themed temporary tattoo. Glisson asks about small plastic gemstones. Gem rings = 144/$9.99. Mini-jewels 1000/ $7-4ish. lots of mini seashells / $3.99 | ||
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| + | Back end of booth again: we think we want it to look like the crystals are housed there, not grown there. We want stuff to be more organic and unorganized, rather than things laid out in rows. Lay off the engineering. | ||
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| + | Please plan everything now and not later! A plea from your president. | ||
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| + | == February 5 == | ||
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| + | Found a relevant link for waterfall: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWr-9Rrn7rs&feature=related Indoor waterfall] shows approximately the flow we want, appears to be about 6' tall and 1.5' wide, and claims to use a pump that is approximately 150-160 gph. | ||
Latest revision as of 17:08, 5 February 2010
January 22
Wiki not yet established, no notes taken
Lies; eforney took some notes:
Notes 1/22
design:
roof-floor tubes w/ bubbly water (need LEDs)
glue on clams :P
algae/moss
facade rising past roof
facade on front giving illusion of depth
heavy curtains for removing lights
armor, crossed swords
waterfallwall
games:
maze based on centralized city, lead a marble through the mini version of the city
sliding puzzle
water coin drop
throw pennies in our fountain!
fishing game
grab a duck game
dunk tank??
January 29
Upper section divided by three columns, two different arches underneath the raised platform. |~|A|A|~| Water in u-shape underneath?
Columns load-bearing, beveled?
Roof should not be flat.
Rocketmatt suggests a round roof (radius 3.14 feet, covers 6 feet). Questions about whether or not round sections will be able to be painted before we put them up. Answer: Maybe? Alan: alternate suggestion, stain. Not good; requires luan. Glisson suggests internal cloth.
Alan really wants an electric staplegun.
Split booth into three sections. Last section round, first (entry) section has steeple roof, middle section? Flat roof flat-out rejected.
"columns" on the front of the booth will be a facade where we just drill some wood into the walls.
Stairs to second level 3' wide.
Suggestion for roof: Make last section square, taller, use fake round section as facade since people won't see it from the inside. People will see the booth from the front and know that it's just a facade, and will look tacky.
Jgg suggests continuous gradient roof - pointed out that this would dump water on people in front. Gutters? Idea pretty much nixed.
Original concept of having the booth look like different buildings from the side. It will be hard.
Roofs need to be pitched, need to consider how they should be pitched. Gradient towards side? Steeple roof? Would be applicable to second level. First level has the courtyard, but they don't line up. Cover courtyard with roof? Interior light? Cut a notch in the roof for the courtyard? People think the notch is best.
Alan wants to know specifics of where the beams and supports are.
News: rocketmatt wants the three sections to be at different depths.
Courtyard and roof don't line up - we should increase the size of the courtyard until it matches the roof. We think there should still be enough space for the game. Then the roof is just two sections gradient-ed towards the outsides of the booth (opposite directions on different sides) /|_|\
Waterfall in the courtyard: Glisson speaks. Seen from side (nobody will really see this), Glisson draws picture. Piece of Lucite was at an angle; Glisson disagrees.
Sam reports with very basic research approx $200 per pump for water. Rocketmatt thinks we can get a lot cheaper: ~50. Unknown if those pumps can move water up the 10 feet that we need. How much water are we using.
Rocketmatt thinks Lucite will be most expensive part of booth. Glisson thinks maybe we can convert it into two small waterfalls if cash is an issue. Rocketmatt also submits that we might be able to split the courtyard into two section with four small waterfalls on the side, maybe?
Homemade waterfall website: 1 in width = 100-150 Gallons per hour minimum. No way. This looks like it's a real waterfall, but we only want a sheet of water.
Rocketmatt and Glisson draw on the board; tank at top of waterfall? Shallow trough of water, pool at bottom, water pumped into trough causes overspill onto wall of water. Trough will be heavy, even if it is shallow. Some chalkboard math... have we checked restrictions on water? No, we haven't. End result - we'll get the pump we need to make the trough small. Trough needs to be mounted on walls really solidly. Trough proposal: gutter, put 2x4 as a stringer to attach it to, and underneath perhaps. Alternately, steel channel. Gutters aren't meant to hold water - Sam/Greta are going to go to home depot to get info. Use sealant, cap ends with 2x4 as well as guttercaps. Worries about gutter bending outwards - steel channel seems to be the best option, unless we build a 2x4 box and line it with plastic. Worries about that are that the warped wood will create uneven flow which will look ugly. So: steel channel. Tilt it so it flows outward, build small sheet metal curve to direct flow forward in case of conanda effect. Put sheet of wood up in front of the whole setup so that it is mostly invisible from the front. Or cloth, or something. What about the inside? Metal trough at the top may look weird. Also, it needs support. For Lucite: sandwich it between 2x4s on the ends. Also need 2x4 to support it in the middle so it doesn't bend - at top and bottom. Need metal or something curves on the side to make sure it doesn't spill over.
Interrupt: Price point for 4'x8'x1/8" sheet of plexiglass is approx $124 + $170 shipping for a company from California.
Seems to be some motion for two separate waterfalls so that the interior wall can come in and connect nicely, and also because it may look nicer. Trough setup will be the same, we would just weld something to the center so that there's no flow there. Need 4x curved sides instead of 2x. Verdict is that two waterfalls is better.
Collection pool for water? Kiddie pool, big plastic bin, some kind of box lined with plastic or concrete. Concrete heavy - just put rocks in. Or gravel.
Rocketmatt gains non-sequitur of the week award.
What keeps the lucite from sliding off the frame we build for it? Glue, caulk, silicon. Needs to be placed so the channel is above it, and the pool is below it.
What do we put in the courtyard? Armillary sundial! Eforney looking for one.
Decorations in the back: Crystals. Glisson suggests switches to light them up.
Rocketmatt speaks on possible secondary game. Control board with two wheels, three toggle switches. 2 Buttons/dials (?) above labeled Submerge and Rise. Wheels and switches labeled with greek letters. Sort of a matching game - make the wheels match the rotation to light Rise... This is not a submarine! Idea shouted down.
Glisson suggests lights with switches just sort of randomly around - people can toggle switches and light up crystals on the walls.
Prizes for real game: Greta thinks about themed temporary tattoo. Glisson asks about small plastic gemstones. Gem rings = 144/$9.99. Mini-jewels 1000/ $7-4ish. lots of mini seashells / $3.99
Back end of booth again: we think we want it to look like the crystals are housed there, not grown there. We want stuff to be more organic and unorganized, rather than things laid out in rows. Lay off the engineering.
Please plan everything now and not later! A plea from your president.
February 5
Found a relevant link for waterfall: Indoor waterfall shows approximately the flow we want, appears to be about 6' tall and 1.5' wide, and claims to use a pump that is approximately 150-160 gph.
